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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 14:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And can I say I think it&#039;s fucked up that guys would rather have someone on their lap that they KNOW is pretending, rather than someone who at least likes men?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And can I say I think it&#8217;s fucked up that guys would rather have someone on their lap that they KNOW is pretending, rather than someone who at least likes men?</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 01:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn.</description>
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		<title>By: Devon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the sabotage can take different forms: the easiest, but sometimes most difficult, is gossip. or worse, truth. swinging richards patrons are infatuated with the straight boy fantasy. all the the dancers have to do is tell people who don&#039;t already know that i&#039;m gay. that cuts my money down right there. 

at one point, when i thought matt didn&#039;t like me, he would play really annoyingly &quot;gay&quot; music only when i got on stage (how many times can he make me dance to &quot;hit me baby one more time&quot; when i&#039;m PAYING him 10% of what i make?).

former dancers will say, &quot;i used to be a richards dancers, so i know what i&#039;m talking about - he&#039;s not really very good.&quot; this despite the fact that they were never richards dancers in the first place.

others will encourage you to drink until you start making bad decisions, and then turn you in for acting out. there was one dancer who got fired for selling viagra. the guy who turned him in was sporting a nice semi-erection that night, i might point out. 

i&#039;ve known of several instances where a group of dancers will pick a guy they no longer like competing with, will watch over the walls of v.i.p., and then run and tell management the moment anything even slightly questionable happens (even though they themselves aren&#039;t in a position to throw stones).

theft and vandalism don&#039;t help. if someone takes or ruins your clothing, you can&#039;t perform AND you&#039;re out the money replacing the stuff.

and then there&#039;s just outright manipulation - the people who will pretend to be your friend, but who are pumping you full of poison. they take advantage of a bad night and tell you there&#039;s nothing wrong with you, but maybe you&#039;re just not in the right field. or the ones who are less skillful who simply ridicule you for whatever reason (height, age, endowment, musculature or lack thereof, etc).

you have to pay attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the sabotage can take different forms: the easiest, but sometimes most difficult, is gossip. or worse, truth. swinging richards patrons are infatuated with the straight boy fantasy. all the the dancers have to do is tell people who don&#8217;t already know that i&#8217;m gay. that cuts my money down right there. </p>
<p>at one point, when i thought matt didn&#8217;t like me, he would play really annoyingly &#8220;gay&#8221; music only when i got on stage (how many times can he make me dance to &#8220;hit me baby one more time&#8221; when i&#8217;m PAYING him 10% of what i make?).</p>
<p>former dancers will say, &#8220;i used to be a richards dancers, so i know what i&#8217;m talking about &#8211; he&#8217;s not really very good.&#8221; this despite the fact that they were never richards dancers in the first place.</p>
<p>others will encourage you to drink until you start making bad decisions, and then turn you in for acting out. there was one dancer who got fired for selling viagra. the guy who turned him in was sporting a nice semi-erection that night, i might point out. </p>
<p>i&#8217;ve known of several instances where a group of dancers will pick a guy they no longer like competing with, will watch over the walls of v.i.p., and then run and tell management the moment anything even slightly questionable happens (even though they themselves aren&#8217;t in a position to throw stones).</p>
<p>theft and vandalism don&#8217;t help. if someone takes or ruins your clothing, you can&#8217;t perform AND you&#8217;re out the money replacing the stuff.</p>
<p>and then there&#8217;s just outright manipulation &#8211; the people who will pretend to be your friend, but who are pumping you full of poison. they take advantage of a bad night and tell you there&#8217;s nothing wrong with you, but maybe you&#8217;re just not in the right field. or the ones who are less skillful who simply ridicule you for whatever reason (height, age, endowment, musculature or lack thereof, etc).</p>
<p>you have to pay attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t suppose it would be prudent to be specific about the ways dancers will try to sabotage each other?  

Is it just talking shit about you to patrons?

I bet they&#039;re really pouring it on now that you&#039;re going to be in the advertising, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t suppose it would be prudent to be specific about the ways dancers will try to sabotage each other?  </p>
<p>Is it just talking shit about you to patrons?</p>
<p>I bet they&#8217;re really pouring it on now that you&#8217;re going to be in the advertising, too.</p>
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		<title>By: devon</title>
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		<dc:creator>devon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, y&#039;all, it gets way better: at richard, the manager has to pay $500 a week to work there. and the bartenders have to give a percentage of their tips to the house too, i think... so, let me see if i understand this correctly: if i make $100, i have to give $25-35 to the house (goes directly to the house), $5 to the door (goes to the doorman, but he may also have to give something back to the bar, i don&#039;t know), and 10% to the dj/manager (who then has to pay $500 to the house each week to work there). 

it hasn&#039;t happened to me yet (the worst night i&#039;ve had was when i made enough to tip out and left with $0), but dancers who don&#039;t generate enough to tip out have to go the atm ($8 fee), get money out of their accounts, and still have to tip out. if someone gets a vip and they pay for it with a credit card there are additional fees beyond those that are incurred by cash. (example: 15 minute vip = $10 for the wristband for unlimited in-and-out access to the lounge, $40 for the room for 15 minutes, and $100 to the dancer for $15 minutes. with cash, that&#039;s $150. the bar gets $10 + $40. the dancer gets $100 - 10% for the dj. if the patron puts it on a credit card, however, all the fees apply +10% for the transaction fee. the dancer does not get $100 in a check the following week, but $100 - 10% for the dj - a fee for the credit card... the bar gets compensated TWICE for the credit card fee).

we&#039;re getting fucked. but you can make enough despite all that for it to be worth it. however, when there are so many dancers the HEAT IS ON. hence the drama back stage. for those dancers who don&#039;t live in atlanta (eg, me and scotty et al), we have the burden not only of all the tipping out, but also hotel/gas/food. by the time i&#039;m done in atlanta, i may or may not have netted what i would have in columbia (which is 1/3 the distance and close enough to family for me to avoid the hotel/food, but not the gas costs). i go to atlanta for the variety, not b/c it&#039;s the greatest thing that ever happened to my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, y&#8217;all, it gets way better: at richard, the manager has to pay $500 a week to work there. and the bartenders have to give a percentage of their tips to the house too, i think&#8230; so, let me see if i understand this correctly: if i make $100, i have to give $25-35 to the house (goes directly to the house), $5 to the door (goes to the doorman, but he may also have to give something back to the bar, i don&#8217;t know), and 10% to the dj/manager (who then has to pay $500 to the house each week to work there). </p>
<p>it hasn&#8217;t happened to me yet (the worst night i&#8217;ve had was when i made enough to tip out and left with $0), but dancers who don&#8217;t generate enough to tip out have to go the atm ($8 fee), get money out of their accounts, and still have to tip out. if someone gets a vip and they pay for it with a credit card there are additional fees beyond those that are incurred by cash. (example: 15 minute vip = $10 for the wristband for unlimited in-and-out access to the lounge, $40 for the room for 15 minutes, and $100 to the dancer for $15 minutes. with cash, that&#8217;s $150. the bar gets $10 + $40. the dancer gets $100 &#8211; 10% for the dj. if the patron puts it on a credit card, however, all the fees apply +10% for the transaction fee. the dancer does not get $100 in a check the following week, but $100 &#8211; 10% for the dj &#8211; a fee for the credit card&#8230; the bar gets compensated TWICE for the credit card fee).</p>
<p>we&#8217;re getting fucked. but you can make enough despite all that for it to be worth it. however, when there are so many dancers the HEAT IS ON. hence the drama back stage. for those dancers who don&#8217;t live in atlanta (eg, me and scotty et al), we have the burden not only of all the tipping out, but also hotel/gas/food. by the time i&#8217;m done in atlanta, i may or may not have netted what i would have in columbia (which is 1/3 the distance and close enough to family for me to avoid the hotel/food, but not the gas costs). i go to atlanta for the variety, not b/c it&#8217;s the greatest thing that ever happened to my life.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i will say that it is downright extortion to have to pay a fee to dance at a club.  that is probably the lowest form of employer slithering amongst the compost pile.  my ex worked at a place where the management paid some dancers a stipend ($40) per night and then they worked for tips.  others would have to dance for tips if they wanted to work.  i think i have stated this in the past, these clubs should be a symbiotic relationship between all parties involved.  the owners charge a cover fee and sells the drinks, the bartenders pour and serve the drinks making tips, and the dancers provide the entertainment making tips.  what i see is the owner, who has invested his capital to open the establishment, so he/she/they should make a decent return on their investment.  however, without the bartenders pouring and serving the drinks, there is no bar.  without the dancers providing the entertainment, there is no way to justify charging a cover fee to enter the bar.  therefore, the business model should be one of coexistence.  the ownership should provide a decent environment to attract business, the bartenders should be friendly and competent, and the dancers should dance their fannies off to ensure the patrons feel their cover fee is justified.  to that end, the owner should pay a salary/fee to the bartenders and the dancers which can be enhanced by tipping.  also, to make it worth the while of the dancers, the numbers should be limited so not to water down the tipping opportunities.  keeping this in mind, the dancers have an obligation to keep in shape and perform at an exceptional level.  in the end, all will make money.  you are right when you say that the bar does not have a reason to keep the number of dancers to a reasonable level, because he/she/they make(s) the cover fee, the bar proceeds and extorts money from the dancers....the more dancers, the more he/she/they make(s).  maybe this is too obvious for people who have no problems sleeping after they have stolen money from their workers.  

devon, makes me want to retire sooner and start that business venture we discussed.....lol.  however, remember, i get to check for stuck tips....roflmfao!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i will say that it is downright extortion to have to pay a fee to dance at a club.  that is probably the lowest form of employer slithering amongst the compost pile.  my ex worked at a place where the management paid some dancers a stipend ($40) per night and then they worked for tips.  others would have to dance for tips if they wanted to work.  i think i have stated this in the past, these clubs should be a symbiotic relationship between all parties involved.  the owners charge a cover fee and sells the drinks, the bartenders pour and serve the drinks making tips, and the dancers provide the entertainment making tips.  what i see is the owner, who has invested his capital to open the establishment, so he/she/they should make a decent return on their investment.  however, without the bartenders pouring and serving the drinks, there is no bar.  without the dancers providing the entertainment, there is no way to justify charging a cover fee to enter the bar.  therefore, the business model should be one of coexistence.  the ownership should provide a decent environment to attract business, the bartenders should be friendly and competent, and the dancers should dance their fannies off to ensure the patrons feel their cover fee is justified.  to that end, the owner should pay a salary/fee to the bartenders and the dancers which can be enhanced by tipping.  also, to make it worth the while of the dancers, the numbers should be limited so not to water down the tipping opportunities.  keeping this in mind, the dancers have an obligation to keep in shape and perform at an exceptional level.  in the end, all will make money.  you are right when you say that the bar does not have a reason to keep the number of dancers to a reasonable level, because he/she/they make(s) the cover fee, the bar proceeds and extorts money from the dancers&#8230;.the more dancers, the more he/she/they make(s).  maybe this is too obvious for people who have no problems sleeping after they have stolen money from their workers.  </p>
<p>devon, makes me want to retire sooner and start that business venture we discussed&#8230;..lol.  however, remember, i get to check for stuck tips&#8230;.roflmfao!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and when YouTube finally allows you to post videos that you can link here, please include one of Ms. Jackson coming out.  Pleeeease?  Pretty please?  Just say, &quot;Miss JACKSON if ya nasty&quot; or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and when YouTube finally allows you to post videos that you can link here, please include one of Ms. Jackson coming out.  Pleeeease?  Pretty please?  Just say, &#8220;Miss JACKSON if ya nasty&#8221; or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s so useful to me to read about the kind of life I don&#039;t think I&#039;d have the courage to live, so I can see how one walks it.  Makes me think of freaking &quot;Showgirls&quot;!

And yeah, the fact that you have to pay to dance at Richard&#039;s . . . it brings out the old Anarchist in me.  You should start an erotic dance collective!  Owned and run by the dancers with the drink-pouring, security, and numbers maybe done by consultancy, and y&#039;all splitting all the profits.

And the paragraph above the video says it all.  Good wisdom there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s so useful to me to read about the kind of life I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d have the courage to live, so I can see how one walks it.  Makes me think of freaking &#8220;Showgirls&#8221;!</p>
<p>And yeah, the fact that you have to pay to dance at Richard&#8217;s . . . it brings out the old Anarchist in me.  You should start an erotic dance collective!  Owned and run by the dancers with the drink-pouring, security, and numbers maybe done by consultancy, and y&#8217;all splitting all the profits.</p>
<p>And the paragraph above the video says it all.  Good wisdom there.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Devon you seem to young to remember that song.  Hehe, that is her singing persona, in real life she seems like a nice person, as opposed to her father who was a tyrant and her brother Michael who is well &quot;original&quot;.  Another singer who seems to have attitude galore is The Queen of Soul Aretha Franklin. Then there is the bane of every airport security person, Diana Ross!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Devon you seem to young to remember that song.  Hehe, that is her singing persona, in real life she seems like a nice person, as opposed to her father who was a tyrant and her brother Michael who is well &#8220;original&#8221;.  Another singer who seems to have attitude galore is The Queen of Soul Aretha Franklin. Then there is the bane of every airport security person, Diana Ross!</p>
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		<title>By: Devon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*fumbles in surprise and outrage... Miss Jackson! not! give! attitude! bwashas;ldkaesuraosijnz... baby!!! you&#039;re killing me! &quot;what have you done for me lately&quot; was her FIRST single... if that jam ain&#039;t sassy, neither is my momma when she wants her kitchen cleaned! LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*fumbles in surprise and outrage&#8230; Miss Jackson! not! give! attitude! bwashas;ldkaesuraosijnz&#8230; baby!!! you&#8217;re killing me! &#8220;what have you done for me lately&#8221; was her FIRST single&#8230; if that jam ain&#8217;t sassy, neither is my momma when she wants her kitchen cleaned! LOL</p>
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